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Dave
Neopets Metaverse Roadmap Released: Pay-to-Win + User Generated Content + More
  • Posted by Dave
  • Posted on October 7, 2021, 2:17 pm NST


A roadmap for the much maligned Neopets Metaverse NFT project has been released—and boy is it a lot of words saying nothing in particular. Even with the generic terms used ("There's gonna be PvP! And PvE! And progression! And it'll all be NFTs!"), the roadmap is extremely aspirational. No specific features mentioned, but there are some good nuggets that we think you should be aware of.

To start:

This update is brought to you by the Neopets team, project owner and lead of the Neopets Metaverse Collection NFT.

The first line out of the gate seems to walk back what was said earlier this week that the NFT project would not be impacting the Neopets.com team's ability to develop Neopets.com. With the Metaverse team members continuing to be obtuse about development organization, either the Neopets Metaverse team is intentionally misleading the community again that TNT is involved, or TNT's earlier statement that it was entirely run by a third party was a lie. (As you'll see, the roadmap is signed off as "Neopets, Inc." as well.)

Continuing on:

Our long term vision is to create a single application which players can use to interact with the entire Neopets Metaverse.

An entirely new version of Neopia is coming soon to a device near you—in three different stages. What's included? Let's break it down for you.

So-called "Stage 1" of the roadmap includes:

* player assets represented by a combination of fungible tokens and NFTs;
* compatibility and interaction with other fungible tokens and NFTs;
* progression of Neopets (gaining experience points, leveling up, achievements etc.);
* PvP gameplay and mechanisms;
* PvE gameplay and mechanisms;
* development and sale of parcels of in-game land;
* in-game social interaction with other players; and
* user generated content where developers and creators can make games on the Neopian Metaverse assets and host them on virtual land plots.

In other words, this new version of Neopia will be pay-to-win (all assets "represented by a combination of fungible tokens and NFTs"—pay for the Giant Omelette!) It will be able to interact with "other fungible tokens and NFTs", including the possibility of the R-rated NFT project the Metaverse team was congratulating last month. (Yay, porn in Neopia!) You'll somehow train your Neopet—but oddly, core gameplay actions like feeding it, caring for it, and customising it seem to be absent. And most interestingly, it will also have user-generated content—but more on that with "Stage 3".

The second stage of the project involves implementing a "pay-to-earn" economy, meaning if you play the game, you'll be awarded with NFTs.

This is what we want to create with the Neopian Metaverse — a universe where any player can earn tokens through skilled gameplay and contributions to the ecosystem. The construction and implementation for this Stage 2 will occur after the completion and finalization of Stage 1.

So, once they've grabbed all your cash during stage 1's heavy pay-to-win version, then they'll toss in the freebies!

"Stage 3" of the roadmap involves decentralizing the game and taking it out of the hands of JumpStart and The Neopets Team:

In addition, we see that the Neopian Metaverse could gradually evolve into a community-powered initiative (and potentially over time a decentralized autonomous organization).

...

This will also coincide with the project team’s ownership becoming less concentrated and therefore adding to the pace of decentralization.

...

Our ideal outcome is for the players and participants to organically grow and bloom into a vibrant and self-sustaining community that will be able to submit development proposals and vote on the direction of the Neopian Metaverse without our team’s intervention.

In other words, the Neopets Metaverse team wants to build a game, step away from it, and allow anyone to develop content for it. We can only imagine what kinds of fun content random internet users will come up with! Consistent lore? What's that? Family-friendly brand content? Maybe, but also likely no.

Lastly:

This article is issued by Neopets Inc. It is intended for informational purposes only regarding our future plans. It is not intended to be legally binding, nor is it intended to be an offer, solicitation or advice of any kind. Any forward-looking statements or information involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual events to differ materially. No reliance should be placed on any such forward-looking statements or information.

The initiatives in this article, if they proceed, may not be available to all persons in all jurisdictions, and are subject to change. No regulatory authority in any jurisdiction has examined or approved of this article or any part thereof.

Please always read any applicable terms and conditions carefully and seek trusted advice as needed.

Aka none of this may even happen? (If we're lucky!)




The entire team here at Jellyneo is firmly against this project. In protest of the Neopets Metaverse project marching onward, Jellyneo will be hosting a sitewide blackout from Friday, October 8th at 9:00 AM NST through Sunday, October 10th at 11:59 PM NST. During this time, you will be presented with an interstitial page explaining why we believe the Metaverse NFT project is bad for Neopets. We will also have several actions that you can take to make sure that JumpStart hears its community—something it clearly hasn't done in awhile. We hope you'll join the protest with us!
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There are 213 comments below. Add yours!


infernodragon02, October 7, 2021 2:20 PM NST
I'm embarrassed on their behalf. Which might just mean no one running that site has any sense of shame. I'd say it's a real black eye for the brand, but let's be honest, there isn't much brand left anyway, given that things have gotten this bad.
herdy - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 2:21 PM NST
It shows how much they know about Neopets that their official roadmap includes references to Neopets gaining experience points.
ummy - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 2:26 PM NST
This is the worst Neopets-related thing I've ever seen.
ladyamethyst, October 7, 2021 2:27 PM NST
I stand with you, JN.
problematicperiplum, October 7, 2021 2:30 PM NST
They have surface level knowledge of the site so bad it hurts.

"What's Neopets about? Heard of it when I was in 3rd grade I think, my pals were into it but I didn't care."
"You pick a pet and you feed it and raise it, maybe send it in a battle. There's also some shopping in it too."

And that was all the context they ever got.
howdareyoufreezeme1 - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 2:31 PM NST
Very weird that their roadmap doesn't include any actual milestones or dates. Not even a month, not even a quarter, not even a *year* lol.

Also weird that they are sharing this broad vision without even the most basic details being shared/figured out. We don't even know for sure if it will have all 55 species, all colours (including special bodies?), species-specific wearables, etc. etc. to say nothing of even more basic details like price lol.

Hoping this is actually a sign of their disorganization & disinterest in putting real development work into this, and that this will flop, or never even materialize in the first place...
ummy - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 2:35 PM NST
It is disturbing that instead of a side project we can ignore, it appears that JS' true intentions are to replace Neopets with a pay-to-win version of the game.

I really hope I'm wrong, but it's plainly there in the roadmap. Even if they claim there's no plans to close the site, why would they support 2 versions of the same game especially if one was making so much money? It's obvious where this is going.
gotchi, October 7, 2021 2:35 PM NST
I respect YOU JN.
zuxys, October 7, 2021 2:38 PM NST
Just want to say thanks for doing these posts to keep us all updated! And thanks for doing what you can to send a message to Jumpstart/TNT that none of us actually wants any of this to happen.
ilovedachshunds, October 7, 2021 2:39 PM NST
I get that the NFT project is a terrible idea and sounds like the Neo-apocalypse. But you're going to shut down Jellyneo and deny service to loyal users for three days? You're punishing the players. I use this site every day. I urge you to reconsider shutting down JN, even temporarily. I just sent @neopets another tweet, and I urge you to do the same. I find that to be a better way of pushback without denying thousands of users access to your site.
rosi, October 7, 2021 2:39 PM NST
This can't be true!!!
jadedone23, October 7, 2021 2:40 PM NST
I think this is the beginning of the end. I'm glad I haven't spent any real money on Neo in several years.
ilovedachshunds, October 7, 2021 2:42 PM NST
But this is a horrible idea---I don't want all my items, pets, etc. replaced with NFTs. Nor do I want "pay-to-win." I have worked very hard on this game for years. This project had better flop.
ummy - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 2:43 PM NST
Also weird that they are sharing this broad vision without even the most basic details being shared/figured out.
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It's because this third party knows next to nothing about Neopets right now.
1jediboy, October 7, 2021 2:43 PM NST
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twistedlittledreamer, October 7, 2021 2:44 PM NST
seriously? what are they thinking? it sounds like they want to get rid of the original version of Neopets and replace it for something you have to pay for. I don't mind paying for Neocash, but half of the reason I play Neopets is for the fun stress free interaction. Thank you for keeping us updated.
1jediboy, October 7, 2021 2:44 PM NST
I'm so mad I can barely concentrate long enough to read this post!
rosi, October 7, 2021 2:50 PM NST
^same here!
I don't want Neopets to become an Animal Crossing commune with the possibility of R-rated content O_____O!
dave - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 2:52 PM NST
@ilovedachshunds: You will still have access to Jellyneo this weekend.
dragons_dusk, October 7, 2021 2:56 PM NST
As if all the merch pushing wasn't enough. This is a sure sign they are going to finish milking us then let it devolve into chaos. What a horrid end. While I'm sad, I knew the end has been coming for awhile now, they're just speeding up the process.
purrmeister, October 7, 2021 2:59 PM NST
What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge

I've been whaling for NC for years but I will not whale for any of this idiocy. A pay-to-win game? There's a reason I don't play any console games. That's all they ARE is thinly veneered microtransaction incentives at their core. This is so, so upsetting. I hope this project dies in a fire.
rishloo, October 7, 2021 2:59 PM NST
I don't usually say this kind of thing, but this really is a living nightmare.
ilovedachshunds, October 7, 2021 3:04 PM NST
I thought you said you were doing a blackout. I guess I misunderstood. Sorry for the confusion. I completely agree that the NFTs are a bad idea, by the way.
1jediboy, October 7, 2021 3:07 PM NST
Let's make the traffic for Jellyneo higher than Neopets for those days! 👏👏👏👏👏😄
macosten - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 3:07 PM NST
Given this new roadmap - if you can call it a roadmap, since it has no timetable attached to it whatsoever - it's hard for me to tell if they're serious or if they have no intention of actually doing this (i.e scammers).

It's going to be really funny (and by "funny" I mean multiple words I cannot reproduce here) if they just decide to fizzle off the face of the internet Overpowered/CryptoQuest-style...
pikachu315111, October 7, 2021 3:10 PM NST
Just gonna post this here, no reason:

https://kotaku.com/nft-buyers-scammed-as-creator-bails-who-could-possibly-1847806528
jumblejams, October 7, 2021 3:16 PM NST
"-development and sale of parcels of in-game land"

That quote made my brain immediately jump back to that Earth 2 scam game that got discovered a few months ago lol. I can't tell if the tokens generated from this will be locked exclusively to the site or if they can be "withdrawn" and put into your main wallet. If it's the latter I won't be surprised if we'll quickly get reports of "issues" when trying to cash them out for actual money, if it gets that far. Honestly the site should have just shut down alongside Flash.

Also if you have to point out that your "community has organically grown," it makes me question how *exactly* that 'growth' took place.
novelista, October 7, 2021 3:20 PM NST
Gods, they keep kicking up the levels of disgusting, don't they? The only thing that might be worse than this is a scandal the magnitude of Blizzard's.
mypie_7, October 7, 2021 3:25 PM NST
its not too weird to me that they use nonspecific language to try and sell a dream of some future thing that "might" "hopefully" happen, the crypto community is riddled with people who think that all it takes to make something happen is to believe in it hard enough, and that kind of thinking is even stronger in NFT communities.
jumblejams, October 7, 2021 3:28 PM NST
^ of course they do, they have to to think buying a receipt of someone else's url means they own something
blastoise87blue, October 7, 2021 3:36 PM NST
What are they thinking? They whole idea of Neopets was chill and never pay to win. (Granted Premium helped make it slightly easier to achieve Neopoint goals with the Battledome)

If they are trying to get rid of there paying users this is a good way.
serpentshrine, October 7, 2021 3:44 PM NST
At this point I'm past anger and I'm just amused. What an amazingly lofty goal. Everytime JS tries to pass off responsibility of this to the "third party seller" these metaverse CHUDs just smack the ball right back into their court. With plans like these, and out in the public, poor TNT is gonna have a lot of questions to answer. Sounds like they wanna make a public domain neopets 2.0, eh?
thecrazyoo, October 7, 2021 3:58 PM NST
Wow, just wow
This is so confusing, it REEKS of hyping up their product just to sell NFTs, and then never developing anything they're saying
That post is incredibly dishonest, it's obviously a scam right to our faces
thecrazyoo, October 7, 2021 3:59 PM NST
I honestly don't know if I should feel angry or just laugh at this
catriki, October 7, 2021 4:03 PM NST
Remember, this is a community that criminalizes "Fear and Doubt" for a reason.

They don't want people being aware that it's all a scam so they push a cultlike "community" and ignore or put down all the naysayers. (In case it's not clear, I'm referring to cryptobros not Neo folks )
pirate, October 7, 2021 4:05 PM NST
I honestly don't know what half these words mean(I'm nearly 40), just that this is bad. I fear for the future of Neopets and for the players left. This seems like a strange way to gain new people and just terrible overall.
catriki, October 7, 2021 4:06 PM NST
Though if the two groups in my last statement end up overlapping enough, say, if long-time Neo players who actually love the site are all driven out by this, whether voluntarily or because the OG site shuts down, I suppose I will no longer get to make that distinction. I'm laughing in despair guys. Helps me cope.
labtech468, October 7, 2021 4:09 PM NST
This is astoundingly bad business, poorly thought out, and insulting. I've cancelled my premium and won't be logging in ever again unless this is canned. I can't give them $ or page views.
sentehisshou, October 7, 2021 4:16 PM NST
what does any of this even mean? purchase plots of land? like... second life for neopets and you have to pay for everything with cryptocurrency?
herdy - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 4:48 PM NST
Purchase plots of land is fluffy crypto-speak for what is essentially buying a section of the Metaverse where you can post your own content — think of it like a petpage. Only you have to buy it. And you can put largely whatever you want on it.
topaz644, October 7, 2021 4:49 PM NST
This has all the earmarks of a metascam. Hold fast to your wallets!
anomally, October 7, 2021 4:49 PM NST
We never asked for this, who do they think this is going to grab the attention of other than creeps (yay for porn now being allowed? blech) and a money grab.

I'll continue to make outfits for my neopets, but all I'm going to do is take screenshots and keep those. No playing for me.

I don't do pay to win.
tamora, October 7, 2021 4:58 PM NST
I am totally in agreement regarding the Metaverse. However, please don't shut down Jellyneo for 3 days. I use the site daily
1jediboy, October 7, 2021 5:04 PM NST
They're not shutting down Jellyneo.

Dave's last comment said so.
dave - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 5:05 PM NST
Don't worry @tamora, I put you on the whitelist for JN access (As the NFTbros like to say )
aura, October 7, 2021 5:08 PM NST
So what about the Costume Contest?

Round 1 starts on the 8th so I'm guessing we'll just have to wait until after the 10th to get our votes in?
topaz644, October 7, 2021 5:15 PM NST
I could have come up with a better money making scheme than this project that will most likely die at the first stage.

Why could they not wait to see the millions they'll make selling UCs?

They could make good items and sell them onsite too- useful things like weapons- neotokens to shop at the Smugglers Cove lol
xoxofate, October 7, 2021 5:16 PM NST
You know what though...I was remembering things like Key Quest and Habitarium and Treasure Keepers and lyek....bring that all back and I might just....I might just deal and let these NFT's die. I'll pay to play though.
twood, October 7, 2021 5:19 PM NST
Neopets Finals Times
mandypandy667, October 7, 2021 5:50 PM NST
This makes me so sad, 18 years neopets has been part of my life and now I'm really worried it's going to go away and I wont have a choice in the matter
moonlightangell, October 7, 2021 5:51 PM NST
Thank You JN and Dave for standing up for your beliefs and for all Neopians!
You have done such a great job now and in the past!
Bless you for all you do...
dragonperrisgirl, October 7, 2021 5:56 PM NST
Wow, you're not even pretending to be neutral anymore. Which is understandable, because this whole thing is insane.
It's actually getting funny at this point. How is this getting worse and worse as it unfolds?! Who is this for??!
dave - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 6:13 PM NST
@dragonperrisgirl: We haven't been neutral on this topic since the start--except most of our mudslinging has been on Twitter up until this point.

If you want to go deeper down the rabbit hole, take a look through our Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/jellyneo/
parody_ham, October 7, 2021 6:17 PM NST
My heart is absolutely breaking right now. I'm left speechless by how *terrible* this all is.
lukky293, October 7, 2021 6:17 PM NST
ok so I get the whole premise of a blackout in protest, and think this whole thing is a promotional gimmick to sell NFTs because really, why would anyone buy a Neopet NFT? Where would there be a value increase? Except possibly by the idea of this possible future project. But reading these comments has actually made me mad at JN because I see that certain select users will have access to JN whereas all users will not. Not cool.
rosi, October 7, 2021 6:21 PM NST
@lukky293 : I think the whitelist thing was ironical (making fun of the crypto- NFT- pushers' language)
voidmouse, October 7, 2021 6:23 PM NST
thanks for continuing to cover this and for not being neutral. this project is a nightmare. I'm glad you're doing a site blackout.
cutypie349514, October 7, 2021 6:27 PM NST
Wow such great ideas, someone should make this into a browser game!

They might as well just let players start buying pages of the site and putting a little label at the bottom like "The Hidden Tower is currently owned by Libby! Click here to buy it from her!"

This is embarrassing and I will be participating in the blackout.
cutypie349514, October 7, 2021 6:29 PM NST
@Ummy - I agree that it seems like they want a pay to win version. Reminds me of when "Club Penguin Island" was supposed to replace Club Penguin as a "modern" version of the game with micro-transactions everywhere. Shut down within 6 months after it killed the original.
coryldork, October 7, 2021 6:41 PM NST
just because it's pixel-based doesn't mean I want NFTs. this is absolutely ludicrous. it feels like a distraction or just a horrible, terrible and idiotic idea that an exec okay'd because they thought the risk would be worth it.
dave - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 6:43 PM NST
@lukky293: Apologies, rosi is right. The "whitelist" is just an NFT joke. You're *all* on the whitelist!
lukky293, October 7, 2021 6:46 PM NST
so in other words, there is no sitewide blackout at all then
nobody, October 7, 2021 6:51 PM NST
Yes, I do really appreciate that Jellyneo is proactively standing up for us by being vocal.
pikachu315111, October 7, 2021 7:02 PM NST
Actually want to go more indepth with this nonsense:

* There Being A Roadmap: Those part of the video game community are probably facepalming right about now. For those who aren't, recent years triple-A video companies have been trying to sell major "live service" games. These games are often released with very little content in order to rush it out the door as soon as possible, promising more content usually showing, you guessed it, a "roadmap". Long story short, it doesn't work out. Now in this case I imagine it'll not workout due to difference reasons, but lesson is the same: never trust a roadmap.

* TNT's Involvement: I would like to think that first line is being misleading. "Brought to you by the Neopets team" simply could mean "the Neopets team will agree this is a Neopets-based product". It's just to make themselves look legitimate.

* Stage 1:
** So what are these PvP and PvE gameplay they're going on about? Are you making your own Battledome? NeoQuest? Treasure Keepers? Petpet Park (or that cancelled Neopets MMO that resembled it)? Island Builder? What's the point? I thought NFTers just wanted to collect the images and that's all the investment they wanted to do with them (as that's all they see them as, an investment). Or do they still really think any users on the site would be interested in this (and willing to pay the high entrance fee)?
** So they're also selling what I guess are land tiles in the PvE? Don't know what else they mean by parcels of land. For an NFT they're setting up pretty lofty goals for a community who just only cares about collecting images hoping to sell them later.
** What social interactions do you mean (beyond the PvP thing, otherwise you're repeating a point)? It has to be more than neomail or a live chat. Are there going to be guest missions you can from a group to adventure with? Let players make guilds? Are there going to be items and you can gift items?
** So on the land users bought they can make their own game
jaudaran, October 7, 2021 7:03 PM NST
Thank you for doing this. A little bummed to see the costume contest delayed, but this is absolutely worth it. Hopefully it will help inform some people that use parts of JN but haven't been aware of/up-to-date on this whole mess.
pikachu315111, October 7, 2021 7:03 PM NST
** So on the land users bought they can make their own game with assets. So you're going to have a game maker kit? What is this? Who is this for?

* Stage 2: So they want people to buy NFT to make games to giveaway NFT... wouldn't that devalue existing NFT if more are made and just given away instead of sold? It's like I'm listening to a rambling of a business exec who has no idea what game they're making so they're just saying any concept that comes to mind without thinking how it would connect together.

* Stage 3: And the kicker, after doing all this they want to fully separate from Neopets and fully controlled by the NFTers which would make themselves a competitor to the Neopets site using the same IP... and JS is alright with that? That's like Nintendo letting Sony make a Pokemon game for the PlayStation with the possibility that Sony can continue making their Pokemon spinoff without any involvement from Nintendo.

* Future Plans No Legally Binding: Oh, of course, what scam wouldn't be complete without one of these? You buy into Neopets NFT yet none of these promises come to fruition? Well, despite hyping it all up, we didn't say it would happen so jokes on you! Thanks for your money sucker! Maybe next time you want a Neopet make one for FREE on the site, HA HA! Absolutely disgusting.

* JN Blackout: Like, I get you want to do something... but I don't think a 3-day blackout of JN is going to do anything. You're not disrupting any services except the ones you provide, so the JS higher-ups won't even care. Honestly these detailed news post filling up space on the front page is by far the best way to get players informed. If you want to go the step forward, instead of a site blackout, instead have a pop-up appear on most visited pages (like the Daily Page) on the site with an except from the interstitial page and a link leading to the page. Even if someone reads it only once, the pop-up will keep reminding players this is a thing. And then when you do acti
pikachu315111, October 7, 2021 7:03 PM NST
And then when you do actions to get the JS bosses attentions you can use the pop-ups to lead to those. I feel that would be more affective at getting player's attention.
inkpot, October 7, 2021 7:04 PM NST
i'm curious...

even if JS decides to heed our pleading, how would they go about canceling their relationship with this third-party? i don't know how any of this works at all but would they really just be able to go "oop! sorry lads we changed our minds" and cut all ties with the nft business so easily? is it not some sort of contract they have to work with for x amount of time or something?
nyxbie, October 7, 2021 7:09 PM NST
I'm joining the blackout. No bank interest. No stock selling. I'll check twitter for news, but that will be it. And boy howdy am I already mentally preparing to go longer, or even possibly having to let Neopets go.
x_star_dust, October 7, 2021 7:43 PM NST
This is worse than I had originally imagined, and while there's a lot here that I absolutely loathe, what was really baffling to me was the idea of them stepping away and letting the community have control of it in the future. I'm shocked that JS would be okay with just about anyone having such control with their brand.
orisasda, October 7, 2021 7:51 PM NST
I just want this to tank even more.
heather, October 7, 2021 7:55 PM NST
I am VERY upset this is even being entertained as a possibility. The Metaverse team clearly has no ties to the brand, no idea what the community values, and the language and roadmap reek of a takeover. I have spent thousands on NC - I will spend NOTHING on NFTs. I play the site for my friends, the community, and my account/accomplishments over decades and less/almost not at all for the Neopets ~gameplay mechanics~ now. It's beyond me how Neopets leadership doesn't understand where its players' loyalties lie and consistently misses opportunities we would throw money at while pursuing projects we are either uninterested in or actively against.
dadylman, October 7, 2021 8:00 PM NST
This whole thing sounds like it was dreamt
up by a tech-bro freshman during an Intro to Macroeconomics course, but like, he only skimmed the syllabus.
nobody, October 7, 2021 8:02 PM NST
Purchase plots of land is fluffy crypto-speak for what is essentially buying a section of the Metaverse where you can post your own content — think of it like a petpage. Only you have to buy it. And you can put largely whatever you want on it.
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So.... So there really WILL be pages of neopets porn. Like. Officially on the site. And no moderation? Official FyoraxJhudora petpages incoming. Heck, that means real photographs might be slapped on, too, willy nilly? Like, acara, butt, buzz, butt, boobs, lutarixkiko fanart, coitus... WHAT ARE THEY EVEN THINKING?
almostxangel, October 7, 2021 8:04 PM NST
I'll join the blackout. This sucks, I can't believe TNT would do this to us. I've spent so much money on neopets already but pay to play is a whole other concept. Man, my hobby of 20 years is about to die.
tyuio_k50, October 7, 2021 8:13 PM NST
Really wish the other fansites would have some sense and stop pretending that this doesn't exist. Not to diss them, but TDN and SN's complete lack of mention really... speaks. No one's gonna reward you for playing neutral, guys.

Anyway, hope this'll at least catch their attention a bit. No one's gonna win if this goes through.
tyuio_k50, October 7, 2021 8:15 PM NST
(Only calling on TDN and SN directly since they're sorta contemporaries here - I know other parties have/haven't chime din as well, but yeah)
liesha, October 7, 2021 8:23 PM NST
It's very sad what they are doing. The original creators knew how to add and draw more players to Neopets just by players sharing by word of mouth. But I felt that I really couldn't share anymore when they left parts of the site dysfunctional. I kept hoping they would fix games that are attached to getting Avatars like Gourmet Club Bowls and Invasion of Meridell. I would have loved to see Lutari Island added to the Neopets site. It used to be exciting checking the news to see what new event or feature would be added. I think instead of trying to revamp Neopets they should just fix the site, add fun events for players to enjoy. I really liked the Habitarium and I know a lot of people liked Key Quest and the original Battledome. I thought they were going in the right direction in selling Neopet merchandise and letting us buy extra pet slots. But these NFTs from what I'm reading sounds like a bad idea. Especially if they are going to let people add questionable content to the site. What I liked most about Neopets is that it was an oasis from the outside world.
cranbeariez, October 7, 2021 8:29 PM NST
Sooo... Roblox... but even worse?
galifan, October 7, 2021 8:45 PM NST
This sounds like a bad April Fool's Joke that was deferred due to COVID. JumpStart evidently doesn't want to continue supporting the game. It was fun while it lasted but... So long, and thanks for all the fish!
recklesse, October 7, 2021 8:50 PM NST
What a mess. I fully support taking any possible action we can.

You might want to consider changing the word maligned in the first sentence. It has a connotation of ‘unjust’ criticism and I think the majority of our criticism of Metaverse is well justified. I think loathed, despised or even criticised would be a better fit.

Well done on getting such an informative article put together so fast and keeping us all informed. This whole steamroller is going so fast.
jamba_jukeba, October 7, 2021 8:55 PM NST
NFTs, blockchain, cryptocurrency, and all these buzz words have been explained to me before and I still don't understand it.
But I'm glad you guys are taking a stance.
recklesse, October 7, 2021 9:12 PM NST
My biggest worry is that all the decisions have already been taken at board level and JS/TNT have simply been given the task of implementing them.

It’s starting to look that way.
ummy - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 9:19 PM NST
It absolutely must have been a decision made by higher ups concerned with dollar signs who understand little to nothing about the brand. A closed, safe, kid-friendly nostalgic brand simply doesn't belong in the same sentence as pyramid scheme NFTs in an uncontrolled, adult space.

Pokemon can get away with it because it's fandom is among the largest in the world and multigenerational. For Neopets it's image as a positive, family nostalgic brand in the likes of Disney or Nickelodeon is everything.
biediep, October 7, 2021 9:19 PM NST
Wow, this was "fine" (not really, but you know) when I thought this was just some weird off-site thing I didn't understand and didn't have to care about, but now I'm starting to get scared :/ They better not mess with our actual Neopia. Keep this BS away from the actual site ;l
windish, October 7, 2021 9:20 PM NST
What.

Seriously, who thought this was a good idea? Why?? If you want money TNT, you should've just released pet slots and UCs into the NC mall already. I was planning on paying for those - but now I don't know if I want to support them anymore. The direction they clearly want to head in is weird and bizarre and gross - I want no part of it.

Good stuff on speaking out Jellyneo, I support your blackout wholeheartedly
rockieslf, October 7, 2021 9:22 PM NST
I am so happy not to log and I wish everyone will stop buying stuff in the NC Mall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ummy - JN Staff, October 7, 2021 9:26 PM NST
Don't you think the image of Spongebob, Dora the Explorer, or My Little Pony licensed NFTs would be ridiculous? That they could exist or even interact alongside less savory characters and art in a plot in land/collectors case/etc? That's basically what JS is doing with Neopets. Real license holders of such properties don't just give the reigns to shady third parties to do what they wish with them.
cherry_pie18, October 7, 2021 9:27 PM NST
peribee, October 7, 2021 9:39 PM NST
"What do you think?"
i think if i understand this correctly... then i am logging OUT of NeoPets for awhile and INTO JellyNeo even more than usual to protest changing NeoPets and show support for JellyNeo. Already lost Petpet Park, Key Quest. Habitariam, and Treasure Keepers and really, REALLY don't want to lose Neopets too. Was a Grandmother when i started and am a Great Grandmother now. Thank you, JN, i Love You!!!
kyra514, October 7, 2021 9:40 PM NST
I am 70 years old, a grandma whose 4 grandkids got me involved in Neopets. I've been playing 14 years now and my G-kids aren't playing at all anymore, they've grown up. I am on your side JN. There is a lot of this stuff I just don't understand such as NFTs, PvP, PvE, Neopets porn, other stuff I see on JN or on the Neopets board. I was also under the impression that NetDragon owned Neopets and Jumpstart now, or didn't that work out? I haven't seen anything mentioned about NetDragon at all in the last 3 to 4 years. I'm just confused and very sad about what's happening to "my happy place" aka, Neopets! Thank you for what you're doing JN no matter how hard it will be.
peribee, October 7, 2021 9:42 PM NST
Please correct me if i got it wrong! Don't judge ... i am old!
tycooncorb, October 7, 2021 9:55 PM NST
First of all thank you to JN for this and for standing up against this. This is straight up a money grab and a scam. This will whole heartedly result in nothing if you put your money into it so don't.

The company behind this site is truly interested in milking what they can out of the Neopets licenses. They also use the family friendly brand to create some trust with the shady things they are doing. I'm fully convinced they keep TNT employees to further do whatever they are doing behind the scenes to make money. This just opened the curtain to part of the scam going on.
braindamaged19, October 7, 2021 10:13 PM NST
It's sad they are doing this to Neopets. I've been playing over 18 years.

I will be following your blackout and logging out of Neopets on Friday and not logging back on until Monday.. I will also make sure to triple my time on JN
cay, October 7, 2021 11:31 PM NST
I'll be staying on neopets and teaching myself restocking ^_^" I still don't want NFT to happen though!
emerald_eagle, October 7, 2021 11:34 PM NST
This sounds like a really well thought out april fools prank that has yet to be "revealed" as being a joke. In fact it feels like TNT has made a type of joke like this already, but nowadays anything and everything can be taken seriously now.

I hope it doesn't happen though. This would be the most dramatic change to the site, and while "user made content" sounds fun for lore and stuff, it's not worth the cost of an old community like this one.
ilovedachshunds, October 7, 2021 11:40 PM NST
I came across a petition someone made to get rid of the NFT project, if anyone would like to sign.

https://www.change.org/p/jumpstart-get-nfts-out-of-neopets
vendistheoossom, October 8, 2021 12:05 AM NST
I love Neopets but they sure have horrible customer service, why do they keep doing this when absolutely no one wants this kind of thing?? I believe that this crap will fail, but it makes me sad, Neopets is my favourite game and I'm worried for it's future
swevin, October 8, 2021 12:08 AM NST
Question:
Blackout = not logging in to Neopets?
vendistheoossom, October 8, 2021 12:09 AM NST
Oh also, thanks JN for keeping us informed and explaining what these things mean. If you do some kind of strike I support you, your site is such a important part of playing for many of us, TNT must notice it
silentwolf251, October 8, 2021 12:17 AM NST
Honestly, I don't think they gonna go through with this long term. Or I hope at least xD

Regardless, I'm just continue what I'm doing. Logging on to Neopets twice a day (first for dailies, second after Food Club), and continue to not spend money.

If this kills the game, so be it. If it doesn't, my routine still doesn't change xD
lasergu, October 8, 2021 12:18 AM NST
This sounds like a vague pitch put together after an all-nighter just before the deadline for submission. I have no idea what they're planning with this whole thing, and I don't doubt it's a scam. Or at best, incredibly foolish and poorly planned and handled.
mogster, October 8, 2021 12:19 AM NST
Your request to cancel your membership has been processed.
I didn't think it'd get anywhere near that bad. I hoped it was a 'just don't pay for it' thing that wouldn't touch the actual site.
jamie6254, October 8, 2021 1:02 AM NST
Though it might not do much I put no NFT on my pet page and pets, sig, etc and will not be playing neopets during the blackout you have planned. I most likely will screenshot my items, pets,etc and not play the site for a while which really hurts as it's the last thing I had in common with my father before he died. To see a site I loved so much, spent hours with family and friends playing, and now they trow away everything for a few extra bucks for a NFT scam corp. I am very sad and miss the old neopets I grew up with.
kyra514, October 8, 2021 1:15 AM NST
Not a nice thing to say peribee
pinkie_2525, October 8, 2021 1:25 AM NST
this keeps getting worse
el_arakeuh, October 8, 2021 1:35 AM NST
I tried to understand what the metaverse site said but I can't understand a word of it. It's as if it's written in a different language. It might be because i'm lacking sleep, or it might be because it's written for a totally different target group.
olcia1446, October 8, 2021 2:10 AM NST
I can't believe its happening.
rosamooooo, October 8, 2021 2:33 AM NST
Thank you for taking a stand in opposition. I am looking forward to your protest suggestions.
thyaen, October 8, 2021 2:47 AM NST
Thank you for taking a stand, voicing your opinion and organizing a protest. I'm in.
shakespeareofborg, October 8, 2021 3:10 AM NST
I really don't know what to say. I'm not in a good place right now so my brain's a bit scrambled but Neopets, and my Neofriends, are the one consistent thing in in my life. Changing the site to Beta was a hard enough change but if the whole site changes to this pay-to-win thing then I just can't play anymore.
recklesse, October 8, 2021 3:31 AM NST
Just read through the TNT NFT post once more (trying to make sense of it in light of what is posted on the 'road map'). The wording is specific and evasive.

Nowhere does it say TNT are not involved in the project. So I think we can take it that they are.

the "Neopets Metaverse Discord" is managed by a third party. -- that is purely confined to that one space, not the project as a whole.

We'd like to reiterate that our involvement in the NFT project alongside our partner advisors (Moonvault and Cherrypicks) is happening independent of the support we provide to the Neopets site
-- that just says the metaverse project is not taking away resources that were already committed to Neopets.com (though there don't seem to be many of those left).

Nothing there claims that TNT don't have any involvement in the project. It's just carefully worded. At least, that's what I think.
recklesse, October 8, 2021 3:33 AM NST
And what the heck is a 'partner advisor'? I'm guessing it's something like a 'controlling partner' in a business venture.

Perhaps JumpStart has sold the IP to these clowns. It's a possibility I don't like to contemplate.
your_desired_username, October 8, 2021 4:08 AM NST
I fully support the strike.

This has been the last straw for me with TNT. I spend an unhealthy amount with the site and I'm not going to support a company that continues to detail their products.
itipeque, October 8, 2021 4:14 AM NST
I so wish JN could take over Neopets! I know it's not possible, but boy, do they need people who not only know what they're talking about/doing, but also CARE about the site and their users. This news are making me reconsider about keeping my premium and supporting the madness with my IRL money. Sad day.
biediep, October 8, 2021 4:18 AM NST
@shakespeareofborg - I'm sorry to hear that, and honestly, same. I couldn't have said it better myself. Neopets is a safe place for so many of us. A distraction from all the not-so-great things IRL. Even more so during the pandemic the past two years. The Beta change really messed me up as well, but I was slowly starting to get used to it, except for the fact that the site is still completely impossible to navigate without the use of classic pages. And now this.. I don't want to leave, but I most certainly don't want any part of this mess. Part of me is still praying it's an elaborate April Fools joke, but then I remember.. it's October, sooooo...
zeelink, October 8, 2021 4:20 AM NST
I just wanted to voice my appreciation for JN and the JN team at a time when things are taking a dire turn for Neopets. Your passion for the site and the players is admirable and I support you in this blackout.
jaydeed, October 8, 2021 5:02 AM NST
Stand with you. Will log out and stay logged out over the relevant time. This is appalling.
aimeemarie1992, October 8, 2021 6:02 AM NST
This hurts my heart. Neopets has been a big part of my life for over 18 years.
ladymoreta, October 8, 2021 6:22 AM NST
I'm so sad that this is the direction that the management team at Neopets believe they should head in. I'm assuming that none of them play or have any idea what the players want.

It is simple - much of the same for the last few decades.

Neopets could certainly do with some improvements such as all the Flash content being converted. Players would love more events - they didn't do Charity Corner this year but there was nothing that replaced it. If they do an event don't change it halfway through like they did during the AC.

If they need money then do sell RL merchandise but in all regions.

I certainly wish that TNT would listen to its players and JN, but if that is the direction it will go, then I will have to do too, as much as it saddens me to say so. I certainly will not be purchasing NFTs etc and it seems that the majority of the player base will not be too.
dadylman, October 8, 2021 6:26 AM NST
Just logged out. Let’s do this.
topaz644, October 8, 2021 6:49 AM NST
I'll be logging out shortly to join the blackout. I hope I can find the pw to my Neo twitter account to follow the goings on!

We may not accomplish much but statements need to be made by the Neopet community.
roshchodesh, October 8, 2021 7:16 AM NST
Roadmap?! Follow the evil clown car as it mows down good people, grabs loot in every form possible, and repays 20 years of loyalty with utter greed and disregard.
Fantastic.
*weeps*
isosyn, October 8, 2021 7:37 AM NST
I'm logged out and very happy to join in on this protest. What utter nonesense this NFT crypto junk plan is.
jessalynn, October 8, 2021 8:10 AM NST
This protest is gonna be a little hard because I'm already protesting/boycotting against another game--Animal Jam. I'll do my best.
topologist, October 8, 2021 8:13 AM NST
"Given this new roadmap - if you can call it a roadmap, since it has no timetable attached to it whatsoever - it's hard for me to tell if they're serious or if they have no intention of actually doing this (i.e scammers)."

Honestly I'm with you macosten. This screams con job to me; the overly grandiose plans but no actual hard evidence, none of this is legally binding, the fact that their story differs from what the actual TNT told us--and for all the faults of TNT, I find them considerably more trustworthy and reliable a source. Honestly, sounds like to me they want to give people a reason to spend their monies and a "roadmap" gives people a false sense of security in the future of their purchase. Everyone knows of all the NFTs that went down and took people's money with it, so they want to project seriousness because that's all they CAN do, project.
topologist, October 8, 2021 8:14 AM NST
And I support the soft blackout 100%, the more people riled up about this, the better. Thanks for standing up for and supporting the Neopets community, JellyNeo; we really wouldn't be here without you. <3
vampyraya, October 8, 2021 8:33 AM NST
So, to me this sounds like a wanna be Pokemon Go without the Go part and Neopets instead of Pokemon meets pyramid scheme. As in first you are going to pay for it, but then you are going to profit (so I guess others will have to pay for that) and finally you are going to co-run it.
I guess if this keeps going, neopets is just slowly going to disappear. Well, it was fun while it lasted.
neocoladude, October 8, 2021 9:19 AM NST
I highly suggest everyone to just stay off the site in general - in addition to avoiding all monetary transactions with the site too - in order to TRULY show how disrespectful this is to the community. That'll be the only real way to show the higher-ups how we actually feel about all of this - lots of people like me were already not spending money on the site, so...
nobody, October 8, 2021 9:23 AM NST
JN STAFF:

Would you add a # in front of Neopets in the last sentence of the suggested Twitter message so it reads #Neopets community?

#Neopets would tag it in the #neopets twitter feed and more people would see the messages.
dave - JN Staff, October 8, 2021 9:29 AM NST
@nobody: Good idea!
sacanth, October 8, 2021 9:37 AM NST
My NFTopet is truly beautiful and unique and the price was right Thank you JN! You rule.
verdego, October 8, 2021 9:39 AM NST
After being on Neopets for 20 years and seeing a lot of highs and lows - this really is ABSOLUTELY a new low. Hope nothing comes of it, but if it does - I won't be sad if it kills the brand, this is disgusting.
david1234543, October 8, 2021 9:52 AM NST
Haven't scrolled through all the comments, apologies if this was already suggested but maybe start a petition, I know I'd happily sign it.
chesu - JN Staff, October 8, 2021 10:20 AM NST
As someone who's been an active user on Neopets for over twenty-one years (yikes, two of my pets are old enough to drink?), I've seen a lot of highs and lows. A lot of things that made me question whether the site still had a future. Remember when JumpStart sacked the entire staff, eventually ran out of premade art assets, and ended up releasing things like the Rainbow Baby Blu?

This NFT project, however, is completely shameless, motivated by greed, and THOROUGHLY ill-conceived. They've decided to jump on a trend, and a bad one, in the most ridiculous way possible... after the previous such venture failed horribly. I can't help but feel like this will leave a lasting stain on the brand, and while I do at the same time find this entire thing incredibly funny... I'm just disappointed that something I've enjoyed for the majority of my life is in the hands of the kinds of people who would think this is a good idea.
animajaneofan99, October 8, 2021 10:24 AM NST
@jessalynn Oh no.. Has WildWorks agreed to do NFTs as well and no one taken notice!? If so, then that's very hypocritical of them, since the game and it's 3D counterpart has a Green Aesop message there (you know, care for the Earth, don't pollute etc.)
topaz644, October 8, 2021 10:43 AM NST
There are so many hashtags against this scam. Good in one way but wont this keep any one of them from trending?

I'm quite noobish about how it works despite having a twitter account for years. lol
recklesse, October 8, 2021 10:59 AM NST
@david1234543
There is a petition.
ilovedachsunds posted a link earlier:

https://www.change.org/p/jumpstart-get-nfts-out-of-neopets
themeepit32, October 8, 2021 11:30 AM NST

honestly this is just sad.
josie, October 8, 2021 11:55 AM NST
This makes my head spin. What a complete and utter mess
jessalynn, October 8, 2021 12:02 PM NST
@animajaneofan99: Even worse, and I'm not allowed to say it on here, but it starts with P and ends with E. WildWorks has done NOTHING to help with that big issue. I've been boycotting for about 8 months.
bolimdechuva, October 8, 2021 12:46 PM NST
thank you JN for keeping us updated and refusing to be neutral facing this kind of circus. i have twitter notifications on for JN's account!

i admit that there's a lot that i don't understand about the whole NFT World(tm) but the parts of this that i DO understand just keep getting worse and worse! i'll be logging out from neopets now, yikes, yikes, yikes
rishloo, October 8, 2021 1:01 PM NST
If this project had been posted on a crowdfunding website, with zero proof/evidence of what they claim to be working on (which is the case here), they would be eaten alive. You don't promise a new, functioning website with a working economy, etc, with zero evidence to back it up. It's all chest puffing and hand waving. On top of everything else. Disgraceful. I logged out of Neopets this morning.
animajaneofan99, October 8, 2021 1:27 PM NST
@jessalynn Wait, I think I know who you're talking about, it's that one famous artist that was called out for his actions but they never dealt with him right?
mavegibson, October 8, 2021 1:32 PM NST
THANK YOU SO MUCH JN, for being a voice of reason in all this madness. I stand with you 100%. I'm joining the blackout. I might just walk away entirely, until/unless Neo does something to regain my confidence and trust. I'm so done with all of this. The patchwork buggy site, the failed events (AC was a hot mess)... all of this was bad enough and making me feel uncertain about the future of Neopets, but wow - everything new that comes out about these NFT plans makes the situation worse and worse and worse. I can't support Neopets under these circumstances.

Also, it's alarming how many people don't understand Dave's post. JN will not be shut down for 3 days, they'll just be showing an interstitial page - a page that comes before the main site.
daddyattitude, October 8, 2021 1:38 PM NST
https://www.neopets.com/neoboards/topic.phtml?topic=161276379
I hope TNT means what they posted here
swevin, October 8, 2021 1:59 PM NST
@daddyattitude, mind posting here for those of us who won't log in?
9feels, October 8, 2021 2:11 PM NST
Respect for Neopets 📉📉📉
Respect for Jellyneo 📈📈📈

I seriously doubt the game will be made. I think either project plans will fall through, or they'll get partway through development and then abandon the project when it turns out not to be as profitable as they had hoped.
profluence, October 8, 2021 2:12 PM NST
@swevin It's the same post from October 4th.
nobody, October 8, 2021 2:23 PM NST
Ok, Google: Can employees fire their bosses?
libra, October 8, 2021 2:24 PM NST
i would've been less upset if they'd shut the site down in january after flash EOL than i am about this NFT nonsense lol. i don't think i'm alone in that thought. what a disaster.
clock_flower, October 8, 2021 2:25 PM NST
I was a little late to the protest (had to make sure my pets wouldn't go hungry while I was gone by checking them into the neolodge), but better late than never, right? I really hope that this protest, the petition, and all related efforts get noticed by JS and ND
jessalynn, October 8, 2021 2:56 PM NST
@animajaneofan99: It's a group of people that are ********** that are being called out.
animajaneofan99, October 8, 2021 3:45 PM NST
@jessalynn Yikes... I only know the guy was exposed, but I didn't know others as well.
adridiez, October 8, 2021 4:27 PM NST
So this is how neopets will die... with people paying for neopets porn... I really hope this fails miserably, otherwise I'll have to leave the site for good.
thecrazyoo, October 8, 2021 4:28 PM NST
The protest is just awesome. THANK YOU JELLYNEO.
jen_aside, October 8, 2021 4:32 PM NST
HAHA I got a sad face NFTopet!

...so redundant, they're already pretty sad for existing 😞
1jediboy, October 8, 2021 4:48 PM NST
I stand with you, fellow Neopians!

As a Jedi it is my duty to help maintain a balance to the world around me, and this Metaverse shall destroy Neopia AND harm Earth if it is allowed to do so!

*takes a knee*

I humbly thank you all at Jellyneo for providing all that you have for us over the years! You truly are some of the best of us! *bows*

May the force be with all of us… Always.
powerwingamber, October 8, 2021 5:55 PM NST
I got one of those free NFTopets (a sad ice lupe) and the address had BAD on the end.

Nice.
cat, October 8, 2021 6:23 PM NST
This reads like something written by someone who’s never played video games in their life. Using fungible tokens to nurture Neopets, does that mean using NP, NC, codestones, etc? PvP and PvE sounds like they’re just listing things that are popular, unless they’re planning on doing a Neopets Fortnite clone. The part about lovable randomly generated NFTs makes me think they’ve missed the point about customizing. To be honest their roadmap reads like an out of season April Fools joke instead of a serious proposal.

On the other hand I still think this looks like a side project, possibly at worst something they hope will replace Neopets, we can minimize the chances of that happening by just never interacting with it.
samsummer1, October 8, 2021 6:26 PM NST
Glad I held off on the NC boxes... what is Neopets thinking.

I hope they learn in the end who their demographics belong to, because if it is to P2W players, I think it's time to move on to other games. Actual games... if I understand this correctly, they are basically just letting a hacker hold our game for ransom...
peribee, October 8, 2021 6:33 PM NST
kyra514 What??? i wrote my second comment right after my first one because if you read my first one you should know that i wasn't sure about what we were doing. Some were saying JellyNeo was going to blackout for three days, some said not to sign in to Neopets for three days, and i felt that some thought it was both. i am crippled and can bearly type so i am terribly slow. i did not realize anyone had posted between my two posts. i rarely ever post because it is difficult and i often don't understand everything. i have been misunderstood before and at my age one would think i should have learned by now to just keep my mouth shut. Sorry,
inkpot, October 8, 2021 6:42 PM NST
@peribee:
you said nothing wrong, peribee.
i saw that comment too and was confused myself
chelzies, October 8, 2021 7:29 PM NST
What a mess.
Although, my free NFTopet is adorable. Thanks JN for giving me that to slap on my lookup. Keep updating us, cause I ain't got the time to run through discord and all that. Appreciate everything you all do.
rishloo, October 8, 2021 7:48 PM NST
@Peribee I didn't see anything wrong with your comment, either. Maybe they replied to the wrong person.
clock_flower, October 8, 2021 8:03 PM NST
Everybody's talking about this being the end of Neopets, and I for one would be super heartbroken if it went away
My Neopets are like family to me, and the thought of losing them is devastating.
Does anyone know a way to send an email to TNT that wouldn't go through JS first? I seem to recall that the submitting of tickets/questions/asks/what-have-you was overhauled to be part of JS's overall services, but I might be wrong. I really want to know what's going on and to express some pressing concerns, and I figured that might be the best way I could do it.
katina_choovanski, October 8, 2021 9:34 PM NST
So that's it. Neopets is over... Lets face it. They have no intention on making the site useable in any way shape or form. Wow. This is horribly depressing.
cat, October 8, 2021 10:14 PM NST
@clock_flower - you can try sending something to the NT editorial, that’s the main way to contact them now.
1jediboy, October 8, 2021 11:43 PM NST
I will always have hope that Neopets will bounce back…

But heaven forbid that the site really does close up, someone should really set up some sort of emotional support group for Neopians who have been really involved and who are going to be truly affected by the closure very deeply.

I know I’ll need one if that happens. 😢
apophis324, October 9, 2021 1:15 AM NST
Maybe but likely no, on the brand-safe user-generated content? Hmmm.. *takes a look at a slew of user-created custom stages in Smash Ultimate* Yeah I have no idea how this could possibly go wrong~!
apophis324, October 9, 2021 1:22 AM NST
Oh! I have a super outrageous and out-there idea! Let's create a fund-raiser here on JellyNeo with the ultimate goal: TO BUY OUT NEOPETS! Free the site from its corporate overlords, toss out all the ridiculous changes they made to the looks. Let's make Neopets great again!!

(C-Can I still say something like that? I'm not American, and therefor it has no political leaning...)
ohmanwell, October 9, 2021 1:47 AM NST
@apophis324
Thank you for putting forth the fund raiser idea. Whether it's feasible or not, I hope someone with connections and/or know-how will seriously investigate what it would take to ransom our Neopets back.

#loggedout and waiting to be heard
recklesse, October 9, 2021 2:50 AM NST
I would think that, even if the website itself isn't worth much in its current state, the IP still is. That's what would cost a boatload of cash and that's why I wonder if JS is in the process of selling it and cashing it in. It's unlikely the website would be for sale separate from the IP.
iloveeevee, October 9, 2021 3:47 AM NST
Sounds very ambitious for a company that couldnt even prepare for the flash shutdown in a 3 year timeframe. And now they're trying to build this whole new "game" from nothing? Yeah sure, id say good luck but i really cant wish them that, not even sarcastically
recklesse, October 9, 2021 4:15 AM NST
The point is, they don't need to build the game. They just need people to believe they will and shell out the money.

If enough people buy in it will probably raise enough to hire somebody to start making some kind of game. Then at some point they can just shutter it up and pocket all the cash.

If that /is/ their plan they won't want the original Neopets website hanging around to distract people from Neo-Neopets and the Neo-Neopets team.

JumpStart won't care. They'll have their money either way.

As for: a company that couldnt even prepare for the flash shutdown in a 3 year timeframe -- that mostly shows that JS wasn't interested in putting resources into maintaining or improving the website. They might already have been looking to pull the plug entirely sooner or later.
swevin, October 9, 2021 4:47 AM NST
I miss logging in while eating my breakfast. I always do. But I'll be strong because we need to show them we don't want this.
dark169, October 9, 2021 5:42 AM NST
I fully support the idea of Jellyneo buying Neopets.
jaydeed, October 9, 2021 5:48 AM NST
I wake up, go to my dailies page, don't log in b/c I never log OUT, and start playing. Have never been logged out for this long and I miss my Bori, but I will not give them my page clicks, and my shop is empty, I'm not battling for nerks to sell, I'm not buying for CC for hours on end..they lose a lot of activity when I disappear, lol. Hope they're noticing a big difference with so many of us gone.
themeepit32, October 9, 2021 8:00 AM NST
@dark169

I'd support JN if I could help earn enough to buy neopets, sell the game to people who actually give a furby
thecrazyoo, October 9, 2021 10:47 AM NST
After this is over with, I fully support a crowdfund for JN to buy the Neopets site and IP, who's with me?
thecrazyoo, October 9, 2021 10:50 AM NST
Considering they're dragging Neopets.com through the mud with this, I don't think it'll be worth much when NeoNFT goes boom, let's do it guys
apophis324, October 9, 2021 11:24 AM NST
Has anyone tried reaching out to the original creators of Neopets, Adam and/or Donna? I wonder what they would think of their baby crumbling like this...
topaz644, October 9, 2021 11:56 AM NST
@apophis324--they'd probably being going for the nft thing too. Lots of trumpets and confetti to start, then the fizzle out like a dud firecracker.
swevin, October 9, 2021 12:41 PM NST
Yea, why would Adam and Donna care. They sold the site, so that tells me they don't care about it. If they did they've kept it.
ummy - JN Staff, October 9, 2021 12:50 PM NST
Adam was pro-crypto as of a few years ago. It is not a given that he would be opposed to this on principle. I expect Adam and Donna wouldn't be too pleased in a pay to win version, however, since they fought to keep Neopets free.
treasure, October 9, 2021 1:34 PM NST
Cancelled my premium and have been joining the blackout, as well as commenting on social media. Hope we can all fix this together…
cat, October 9, 2021 3:16 PM NST
It’s possible that the lack of preparation for the flash shutdown reflects a lack of faith in the minigames aspect of the site more than anything else.
1jediboy, October 9, 2021 3:16 PM NST
PLEASE!

Dave, if there’s even a microbial chance that Jellyneo can purchase Neopets and rescue it, you would be the absolute saviors of Neopets!

Please come up with a comprehensive list that explains why this is or isn’t possible so that we can know what obstacles are in the way of rescuing our homeworld!
bethn, October 9, 2021 5:01 PM NST
Logged out before 9am NST but didn't notice the time zone. Any idea what 23:59 NST would be in BST? I don't think I've actually logged out of Neo in years. Here's hoping enough people do that TNT notice and feed it back to the corporate trolls.
niossim, October 9, 2021 5:46 PM NST
I'm just so upset. I've been with Neopets for 15 years. Losing it now would be heartbreaking.
ummy - JN Staff, October 9, 2021 5:52 PM NST
Please come up with a comprehensive list that explains why this is or isn’t possible so that we can know what obstacles are in the way of rescuing our homeworld!
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Not Dave but I can think of several reasons why this would be challenging:

-We'd need millions of dollars first and foremost. And of we had that money, it would likely be easier to rebuild the site with current tech.

-We'd somehow have to convince JS to sell us the rights to develop the website since it's unlikely they'd sell the IP, so we'd still have them to answer to.

- The JN staff is from all over the world. So where would we work? All remote? If not remote, we'd have to try to get work visas for people and they may not be willing to relocate their entire lives. Would we even have the infrastructure for that? Legal concerns from having people employed from outside the US?

-the members of the JN staff have full time jobs already, this complicates things.

-all of their potential legal nightmares like security and protecting children become our responsibility

-we can deliver new projects because we aren't working with 20 year old spaghetti code
ummy - JN Staff, October 9, 2021 5:58 PM NST
-We'd need all the department's you'd expect of a serious company if we wanted to do this right, like an HR department and access to a lawyer.

-We'd have to pay salaries. Just as Neopets can't have users volunteer to draw items and pets, so this means many, many artists.

It'd probably be easier if TNT just hired us for a part time consulting role.
ummy - JN Staff, October 9, 2021 6:05 PM NST
When Neopets was more functional they had 75+ employees, and almost 400 at a point. Games can and do take off with a small team, but not any weighed down by 20 years of poorly maintained code, bad decision making, old technology, and have next to no experience in game development.

Converting the site would be a monumental task for even a AAA developer. Even in my wildest fantasies can I see us all working on Neopets code.
ummy - JN Staff, October 9, 2021 6:18 PM NST
But I may buy a lottery ticket so I can dream.

After all we have:

Programming genius
Walking encyclopedia
GOAT artist
Shiny graphics
The god of merchandising and toys
Cabbages and carrots

What else do you really need?
summra, October 9, 2021 6:31 PM NST
Ummy, you had me at cabbages and carrots.

Truly, though, I didn't think I would miss the Viacom era so much. Teenage Summra would be appalled to hear that.
mavegibson, October 9, 2021 7:05 PM NST
Yeah, missing the Viacom era is like missing Dubya during the Trump era! Hehe.

I think the main message here, JN, is that you've proved time and time again that you are trustworthy and reliable, and that you understand Neo in ways even the current TNT doesn't.
ea111, October 9, 2021 7:51 PM NST
Fixing broken website and awful translations: rejected due to "excessive costs"
"Investing" on killing the website with a pyramid scheme: unanimously approved by the steering committee
ohmanwell, October 9, 2021 7:54 PM NST
@ummy - JN Staff

But seriously, why doesn't JS just hire the JN team to consult on site development and customer outreach?? (^_^) mavegibson raises an excellent point: JN already has a great rapport with users and have archived the items, mythos, and Neopian Times editorials (just to name a few of the types of data we can access through the JN site).

As long as JS sets monthly sales goals that are sustainable, it seems like a smart move to me. Sure, this NP meta thing might move forward, and it might (definitely eventually) fail, but what's the downside of strengthening the original site??

The current adult players, who have moolah to spend, would confidently spend more of that moolah if we felt like Neopia wasn't on the brink of collapse. I say JS needs to side with the customers that WANT to be involved, not possible NFT customers that could be taken in: go with the sure thing (us!!) and not the gamble (NFTs).
1jediboy, October 9, 2021 9:08 PM NST
Thank you Ummy! 😊

-Oh boy… Yeah… Those are very complicated hurdles to get over. 😞

-I’d be good with you guys being consultants! That’s be a perfect start! 👏👏👏😁

JS most definitely needs you guys! You could absolutely revive Neopia to it’s former glory! What do we have to do to get them to ask you?
nobody, October 9, 2021 9:15 PM NST
Has anyone else been browsing the Linked In pages of the people in charge of Jumpstart and the Metaverse *dung*show?
apophis324, October 10, 2021 12:34 AM NST
I'm thinking that JellyNeo could better hold the website up while working on it remotely than TNT can while working from one office
I understand why it's not feasable for you to buy-out Neopets outright.. Can someone build a time machine so we can tackle this issue before it happens? XD

As for the responses to my question about Adam and Donna.. I didn't know they had so little heart for their creation.. I just figured they sold it back in the day because of living situations and such. It becoming too big for them to handle, so they had to let it go. Something like that.

...what would Mr. Insane do...
themeepit32, October 10, 2021 5:18 AM NST
like yeah, we always get boring NC events that are clearly cash grabs and now this?
robberbaron, October 10, 2021 5:58 AM NST
There was a time when something resembling a Neopets MMO would've been a dream come true...
recklesse, October 10, 2021 6:31 AM NST
I can't shake off the feeling (completely unfounded probably) that Jim C's immediate boss is part of the driving force for this project. He is based in Hong Kong where both the 'partner advisors' are after all.

Probably barking up the wrong tree as usual. I blame neo-withdrawal symptoms.
bethn, October 10, 2021 7:43 AM NST
Well the whole thing is a bit written-on-a-beer-napkin-inbetween-shots.
topaz644, October 10, 2021 7:46 AM NST
@bethn- ha ha ha! So very true!!!
bsc9999, October 10, 2021 8:28 AM NST
Thank you for standing against this and using your platform to help us make our voices heard!!! This has all been a total nightmare from the start.
recklesse, October 10, 2021 8:29 AM NST
@bethn, exactly! Perhaps the result of a particularly intense, corporate karaoke night in Kowloon.
dave - JN Staff, October 10, 2021 9:30 AM NST
@apophis324: I can't imagine Adam and Donna don't love Neopets. But they brought investors in early on to help the site grow, which it did. And then who can say no to $160,000,000 from Viacom?

However, since then, they've had several failed ventures. They're good creatives, but apparently not good business people. I wouldn't want them near Neopets in any financial capacity.
go_me_123_, October 10, 2021 1:49 PM NST
So it's definitely not a kids site anymore.... even without the R-rated content I'd buy SHOCKED and appalled if children could buy crypto
go_me_123_, October 10, 2021 1:49 PM NST
*I'd be
lucy_haha, October 10, 2021 8:05 PM NST
recklesse you're in Hong Kong? :o
recklesse, October 11, 2021 9:46 AM NST
Hi Lucy. I'm not in HK, (spent a week there once, lol), but NetDragon has an office there (seems to be the one overseeing JumpStart). Both the 'partner advisor' companies are based there too.

I saw your earlier comment about Hong Kong getting into promoting Crypto and NFT's, so it seems likely that this promotion is mostly being run from there with very little input from JumpStart/TNT).

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