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TNT Comic Con Update
  • Posted by Herdy
  • Posted on April 19, 2019, 2:02 pm NST

This week's editorial has been released, and features a special message from Scrappy about this year's San Diego Comic Con in July:

Hi Neopians! Very exciting announcement here, Neopets is coming back to San Diego Comic Con for the second year in a row! Along with our booth inside Comic Con, we are going to have a Neopets Party on Friday, July 19th to celebrate our upcoming 20th Anniversary of Neopets! More details will be coming very soon but wanted to give everyone a heads up in case you are planning on being there or around there during that time. There will be lots of exclusive content, fun Neopian activities and of course, some of the members of TNT! We hope to be able to see you there!!

We'll give you any updates when they are available, but as a reminder last year's tickets sold out very fast. The Neopets Party is unlikely to require a Comic Con pass, but attending the booth itself will need a valid Comic Con pass, which are not available on the day of the convention. For those attending, the last two times Neopets has attended, they have been marked under a different name on the official maps -- we will give more information closer to the time.
Follow @jellyneo on Twitter for all the latest #Neopets news!
misterflipnote, 04/19/2019, 2:08 pm NST
Wondering if just like the 15th anniversary we'll be getting a new Neopet species? Or would it require too much work with customisation? Pretty sure it took quite a while to get all the wearables working with the Vandagyre.

purplebin, 04/19/2019, 2:45 pm NST
They NEVER got "all" the wearables to work on a Vandagyre. They can only wear things that were created after Vandagyres came out.

inkpot, 04/19/2019, 2:49 pm NST
oh, cool. ^^ i hope this years con goes as well as last for neopets! the party sounds like fun.

stepupfairy, 04/19/2019, 5:09 pm NST
Wish something like this was going on in the UK D...amit

cat, 04/19/2019, 7:41 pm NST
Wish I could go, stupid west coast events. I think just them making a good start on the flash transition (html maps, customization and a few ported games) would be momentous enough. New Neopet would be a fun addition, but it would have the same issue as the Vandagyre where it wouldn’t be clothing compatible until new clothes were made for it.

nihana, 04/20/2019, 5:41 am NST
Happy to see they are going again

jawsch, 04/20/2019, 6:38 am NST
I'll def be at the after party this year

bethlifts, 04/20/2019, 7:02 am NST
what about lutari day

escrainus, 04/20/2019, 10:03 am NST
well my thoughts about this:

1 - I hope they can deliver they promised sstuff at the level of the hype they create, since pretty much no one talks about L&Ls, mostly because of the lack of interaction with our accounts.

2 - I hope they actually make an in-site event that works at the same time as this, so while maybe not getting rewards, at least it can work like "hey you can't be here physically but you are here"

3 - for the 20th anniversary they must increase account's pet slots to an amount that is actually relevant... I would vote for the disappearence of side accounts an all 25 pets stay in only one, but if they can at least double current limit (10 F2P, 12 premium) I'm fine with it.

4 - All in all, I'm pretty happy with them working this hard to make the site known, I can't wait for them to finish with the HTML5 stuff so they can focus in costumer service and major site fixes.

sakibou, 04/20/2019, 6:01 pm NST
I absolutely do not ever want all side accounts to be merged into one! Perhaps it isn't this way for you, but for myself and MANY other, side accounts don't exist strictly for having additional pets. There are separate galleries, separate Lookup designs, etc. And, sometimes they can serve as an escape from one's main account for a variety of reasons.

sakibou, 04/20/2019, 6:10 pm NST
Also, I have no desire for all of my pets to be on one account. That sounds WAY too cluttered. My pets have differently themed Petpages on each account, so merging them would ruin the concept I'm going for. I don't even understand why people are clamoring for 10+ pets per account, anyway. All this would do is unnecessarily clutter the servers (because folks will absolutely make and abandon accounts with the full amount of pets they're allowed).

stormmonarch, 04/20/2019, 8:15 pm NST
I also want to have all my pets in one account. That saves me resources in term of NC. I don't like the frequent login and logout either.

inkpot, 04/21/2019, 3:05 am NST
i'm with you, saki. atm i feel like seeing 5-6 pets on a lookup is pretty full looking already. i can't imagine seeing 8 or 9 pets per lookup. @_@

i've been on other pet sites that have unlimited pet spaces and yes, imo, it does look very cluttered on your profile (its part of many reasons why i'm no longer apart of those sites; i feel like there needs to be a limit put on things).

don't get me wrong! i get how it makes for ease of access. you wouldn't have to log into all your sides to lodge your pets and with nc you wouldn't waste boxes/money transferring items between yourself... but i think those are problems i feel we could do away with via other implementations (like being able to choose what emotions to display on our pets so we don't feel forced to feed them or starve or sicken them to get the expression we want for our characterizations of them. and maybe just doing away with giftboxes in general??).

as it's been said, if we did have the ability to converge all our pets to our main, what then becomes of our sides? the galleries there? the guilds we're in? they'd have a lot of work to do to figure all that out.

instead i'd much rather just prefer being allowed a sixth account. i mean even that feels excessive but i feel like it's just the easiest way around... idk.

tomatereloco, 04/21/2019, 7:32 am NST
Sorry for answering here, but happy easter!!

@dave, I just read about a possible new JN Negg Hunt... My heart skipped a beat They are one of the most memorable events I've participated in my life. I know it sounds exaggerated, but they changed my life (it influenced what I decided to study in college, thus my current work, thus moving to another country). I really can't wait to play another one!

dave - JN Staff, 04/21/2019, 8:58 am NST
I'd be for getting rid of side accounts, purely so it'd eliminate all of the "Can I do _______ on my side account?" questions that people have. It's not really a great system allowing your users to have multiple accounts, but putting them in fear of losing them all if they do one wrong thing...

More Neopet slots and multiple galleries seem like the two big things that could get people to condense.

escrainus, 04/21/2019, 2:30 pm NST
@sakibou and @inkpot
Well MANY other actually are sick and tired of having to create side accounts.
Side accounts MUST be retired from the site, just like @dave said, it gives too much trouble figuring out what to do with them. In the security part, no account is safe until they improve security, that's not directly linked to this, but something should be always priority number one for TNT.

Now the solution is easy, way too easy. Make us able to manage pets in the suer lookup, as simple as that, just like if it was a NC mall album but better.

Have the pets with this options:
ABC - arrange (the one we have).
Age arrange
Free arrange (just like a gallery)

Plus the following configurations:

{Everyone is here} - All pets clustered in the UL, some people actually like that.
{spotlight and all} - spothlight pets will be palced in an uper row with normal image size, while all the other will be

With the options to:
hide some pets from the UL.
divide pets in aditional rows, depending of how the user wants to divide them (spothlight pets would remain in a separate row regardless of this)

With this UL whill be customizable and everyone will be able to have their accaounts in whatever way they want.

Also about the galleries, just allow more galleries per account, as simple as that.

Make users able to join multiple guilds, with the currect state of the site is hard to find an active one anyways.

About being able to escape from your main, well, so

escrainus, 04/21/2019, 2:30 pm NST
About being able to escape from your main, well, sorry I see no use to that other than, well.. fishy situations why someone would do that.

rosi, 04/21/2019, 3:08 pm NST
I don't see the problem with having 4 side accounts and I really don't get all this adversion to them.
It seems like you want to get rid of ALL of them just because SOME people use them for fishy reasons (e.g. double bidding on the auctions) but this is those cheaters' fault, not side accounts'.

Plus, please consider just this one thing: how long does it take for the Customise page to load? Not to mention how many times you have to reload it just to make your pet appear with the clothing items it is wearing? How slow and laggy does it get with all the wearables we have in a closet for only 5 pet? Multiply this by five times x_X The servers will explode and our browsers will freeze without even starting to customise (especially if you like to have all different Neopets species).

A lot of people have spent considerable time and resources to customise their side accounts, and losing them would mean to be ripped off. Moreover, many people (myself included) love their carefully thought side accounts usernames and want to keep them (to prevent them from being used by someone else, for example).

rosi, 04/21/2019, 3:15 pm NST
@sakibou: of please, don't think I was referring to you when I wrote about fishy situations.
In fact I know that a lot of people create a 'basic' side account to browse the neoboards for privacy reasons and to protect their main.
I assume this is the meaning of you saying 'to escape from your main'

rosi, 04/21/2019, 3:19 pm NST
Having said that, with all the current problems and the huge HTML5 transition that is underway and will take years, all this acrimony against side account seems like a petty grievance

rosi, 04/21/2019, 3:25 pm NST
oops I meant 'oh please' not "of" sorry

herdy - JN Staff, 04/21/2019, 4:20 pm NST
As a pro tip, if customisation loads with a blank closet/no clothes on your pet, you don’t need to reload. Select presets and then select load and customise to switch between Neopets on your account. If you repeat to switch back to the original pet, the closet and active clothing will be there — no reloading the page needed.

gigiamore, 04/21/2019, 6:01 pm NST
I use all of my sides. I have pets, separate closets and nc on all of them and I wouldn't want them all on one account either. I love all my pets and would never trade them, I customise them often and I don't wouldn't move them even if they increased the pet slots. I agree with Rosi and everyone else who has said the same, it would be cluttered and there's just bigger things to worry about for tnt at the moment. Another point I'd like to make is that if I actually had all my 18 pets on 1 account I probably would neglect some. I make time to go to a single side account every month and pay attention to my pets customising and working on all 4 of their look ups.

Seems the whole neo community is split pretty much 50/50, so maybe if it's not utterly broken we don't need a fix. It's clearly not that broken of a system as it's not enough to drive you away from the site. I don't know why it's so much effort to click three buttons and type in a password, heck, I do that for my independent e-mail accounts. I put more effort into making lunch, which I wish I didn't have to do sure, it's boring as sin, but I sure do love that tasty bagle eats.

rosi, 04/21/2019, 6:45 pm NST
Thank you very much Herdy Your tip seems to work, at least with the blank closet issue (my main acc. pets are currently nekkid ^^;;;

@gigiamore: I love what you said *grins*

escrainus, 04/21/2019, 7:52 pm NST
Well I beg to differ, while I understand people "loves" side accounts, is certainly becuase they are used to it and change is always something hard to go throught and nope, is not because poeple do fishy stuff, like that was the last point I aknwoeledged, I gave other reasons before that.

Whatever the reason is, side accounts are unnecesary, let's face it, all the points given of why side accounts are good can be refuted easily with proper site maintenance.

And OFC never said they would do this from one day to another, I'm realistic and I know is a long term project but they should start the preparations for that (and I know HTML5 is the priority) so it can roll faster once they get all the resources ready.

And if people invested enought time.. well, besides NC (that would go to their mains), UL layouts (they can always change or rotate their current ones, galleries (already offered a solution) I don't see what other stuff is there that would mean "they had been ripped-off.

pikachu315111, 04/21/2019, 8:08 pm NST
Huh, this is the first time I'm hearing about users being tired of side accounts, though I can see why. Though at the same time there are certain benefits having multiple accounts. So I think maybe a compromise is in order:

1. You can directly connect side accounts to your main account.
By doing so you can switch between your accounts without needing to go through the login process (though there will be an option to not allow this for those worried about their accounts security, or they at the very least need to put in that account's PIN).
You can swap Neopets between accounts without needing to use up a transfer or risking them in the pound.
All accounts have access to the Avatars you unlocked on your main account and if you get an Avatar on your side account it's unlocked on your main account.

2. Now that the side accounts are connected, TNT can make it so the rules for side accounts are much clearer. You would not be able to play games & Dailies nor buy items from site or user shops. Random Events and Faerie Quests can still happen, but as always the item needed for the Faerie Quest would need to be sent from the main account.

So in other words I would make side accounts into "sub accounts", accounts that are branches from the main account with special rules that limit it.

escrainus, 04/21/2019, 8:17 pm NST
Isn't that more trouble than a solution? like imagine all the coding needed to ensure that accounts are safely linked... why not just merge them? like not literally, we are plentty of users that wants all the pets together, not just moving stuff faster :/ I could suggest making possible for users to either have sides r increasing spaces but it sounds like the UC dilema all over again and we know how problematic that already is.

escrainus, 04/21/2019, 8:34 pm NST
Oh, a person gave me the perfect solution to this dilema, you want sides ok... we want more slots? ok too, make a daily (so sides can't take part of it) where we earn or pay (NPS) or whatever easy activity to increase account space, since at this point asking for loyal user perks that affects accounts that much is just bad idea.

I mean, I still vote for sides being forbidden in the site but would be love with that solution if enough community members oppose to losing the sides.

rosi, 04/21/2019, 9:12 pm NST
As I said, there's also a matter of usernames being relevant to the person who created it :-/
and of course the closet being impossible to load with clothes for 25 species.

@pikachu : [quote] You can directly connect side accounts to your main account.
My sister and I suggested a similar solution back in 2014 when Jumpstart took over and we users were asked to do that big survey, remember?
Sadly they never seriously took into account (ha!) any of our suggestions

escrainus, 04/21/2019, 9:19 pm NST
@rosi: I get that but honestly losing an account name for the greater good seems a good price to pay, like in most cases just make that a neopet or use it in another game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The closet issue has been already adressed in my replies, is not impossible to improve it, like is literally limit ourselves instead of making things better.

and again liking accounts sounds more complicated than just increasing slots and room in galleries, I guess that's why they never did it.

rosi, 04/22/2019, 5:23 pm NST
But honestly I don't get why you keep saying side accounts are problematic and we never know what to do on them. I've been a Neopets user for so many years, from before the Viacom era (Donna was still around on Neo), and never, ever, had a single problem or doubt with side accounts. Back then, I thought the rules were very clear.

But if some people want the option to merge them all in one, well I guess they should be entitled to do so. Just make it an option, though

gigiamore, 04/23/2019, 6:31 am NST
@Escrainus, you may beg to differ, but you can't just brush my opinions aside. I literally gave a good few reasons as to why I love my sides and they're not to do with being used to them, they're to do with the benefits of having them separate. I'd also like to highlight another point Sakibou made, I do have seperate themes for my sides too, one's all underwater for starters, I'm not sure I'd want them kicking around with my farm themed Kau... They're all like individual families, you couldn't replicate that on a main without doing a bunch of coding yourself. All the options that you've come up with to improve how the UL looks sounds like way more coding for tnt then just linking accounts. You could mean coding on the users side, something that most people don't like, or can't do, I'm not sure. Forgive me, but I also can't find where you addressed the closet issue. I'm sorry, I just woke up. :/

@Pikachu, I love your idea, it would be just like what ALL the other sites I use are. That popular video site (not sure if I can mention the name here) all of my emails, even Amazon let me do that with my partner and my accounts! It must be pretty easy since it's everywhere on the web. Still not totally sure why people find it so hard to type in a password any ways, your idea would completely change that. It's brilliant.

@Rosi, I agree completely, I can barely load my closet as it is. Could you imagine if I had a

gigiamore, 04/23/2019, 6:39 am NST
an extra 250 items in it not to mention the weeks I will never get back from trading for popular items specifically for my sides. It's a bit like when people say all UC's should be converted, I spent 5 years training my pet to trade for my UC fae Ixi, I adore her so much, but that's time I'll never get back. Although, if they took her away I would totally rage quit hahaha! Time lost is more of a bugbear for me personally than anything though I think, so probably not relavant. Also agree with your point about being around for a long time, I don't remember a single time when I was confused about the rules of sides. I mean, basically don't make money on it or participate in things where you could make money or get items. End of, it's pretty simple.

I'm going to toast a bagle now, and while it does it's thing, I might log into my sides and check on my pets... Okay, that was a bit snarky

Sorry, it was a bit long and got cut off... oops!

escrainus, 04/25/2019, 12:34 pm NST
@gigi didn't brush them, I gave reasons.
No, filters and coding would be TNT's and seriously it isn't harder than linking accounts and doing a whole checkup to verify no one links an account that isn't theirs to abuse the system.

The separate families is doable with the suggested sorting options.
The closet I mentioned that it only needs a fix from TNT's part, taking advantage of the HTML5 transition they can just redo how it loads the lists since that is the problem.

So with all due respect, I fail to see how having multiple accounts is a benefit over managing everything in one account. I'll just go on and see if a change is doable with TNT, hopefully something happens.

escrainus, 04/25/2019, 12:37 pm NST
Besides you didn't saw the alternative I posted :v

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