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  • Posted by Herdy
  • Posted on June 27, 2018, 5:22 am NST

Hardtotame has posted another board in the Site Events forum today, this time addressing the Altador Cup and the recent issues with captchas:

Nerfing Faerieland's scores - If there was any way in which we could determine how many scores were illegitimate, we would definitely have used that to adjust Faerieland's position. However, any action we took would be purely based on guesswork rather than actual data, and we therefore decided against it. Yes, we know that Faerieland's scores are not genuine, but we also know that there are dishonest players on every team, to varying degrees. Unfortunately, we have no way of determining how much each team's score is being inflated by the illegitimate scores, and therefore cannot take action on this matter.

Don't we care about cheaters?
They've been on our minds since long before the Cup began, but there is no easy way to thwart them. We tried different things the last two years, but each method had its flaws. We did have several other solutions in mind - one was a very time consuming one, and required the Cup to be rescheduled for much later in the year. We attempted something else in Round 1, but it was clearly not good enough. Now we have the CAPTCHAS, and they seem to be working.

CAPTCHAS are making the games a pain to play!
We hear you. They were not our favorite solution, but we didn't have any other option. However, it IS the only foolproof one we have ever been able to come up with so far. Even our freezing and flagging from previous years had workarounds that dishonest players exploited. We are relieved that the CAPTCHAS have stopped the cheaters so far, and we're as curious as you are to see how Round 2 plays out.

We're sorry that some teams will still end with positions they don't rightly deserve, but as long as the cheaters don't find a workaround to the CAPTCHAS, we can proudly assure you that the Altador Cup podium will not be tainted this year.

Why I didn't speak up earlier: We make so many plans here in office, and those plans change so often. Sometimes even before we begin work, and many times when we're half-way through the project. Work turns out to be more complicated than expected, unexpected bugs throw the project off track - many times it isn't safe to say anything until we're standing on the finish line. I couldn't speak up before because I didnt have definite answers for you. I did have this answer yesterday, and I wanted to post on the boards then, but things came up (See? That's what I'm talking about!) and I couldn't.

When asked if captchas would be added elsewhere on the site:

We haven't had time to think about those options yet, Herdy. Or these discussions have not reached my ears, at least. I think we'll be waiting until the end of Round 2, at least, to call them a success and decide how else to use them on the site.

When asked if the captchas will be returning next year:

kaljinyu, we have a completely different plan in mind for next year. We know there are many who don't enjoy the Altador Cup much, but we also see there are many players who think it's the best event of the year. We definitely want to spend more time on keeping it free from cheaters firstly, and then enhancing the overall experience with changess that would entice more players to take part.
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